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some questions about astral projection
« on: April 24, 2009, 05:38:03 PM »
  With regard Astral Projection, please explain the following.

    1. Can somebody from astral world prevent me from astral projection?

    2. i hear someone else speak, different voices

    3. what are the solutions for the above?

    4. Those people(spirits) try to deceive me, control my body. and what are the solutions(Spiritual & Medical)? and how can i heal this.

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Re: some questions about astral projection
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2009, 09:29:24 PM »
I'm not entirely sure what your questions are - let me try to at least comment:

1. No, I do not believe that you can be prevented from astral projection by anyone but yourself and your own fears/attitudes/beliefs. The ability to leave one's body in a dream or awake and go adventuring in bodiless form is something we all have, and no one can stop you from using it but yourself. However, you might be unpracticed at doing it consciously, so that you aren't "good at it" yet; or you might be preventing yourself from success by your fears/attitudes/beliefs - you'll need to address them and perhaps change them before you'll succeed.

2. Hearing other voices could be anything from hypnagogia (images and sounds that appear in our brains as we're falling asleep; akin to dreams) to telepathy (hearing others' thoughts) to remote "viewing" (hearing others' conversations without actually being physically present for them) to, very simply, "tuning into" another reality. Or more!

3. In the case of having trouble succeeding at astral projection, the solution is probably practice (meditation, observing the waking-to-sleep transition, energy work, visualization, exerting the will in the direction of your intent) and belief work (re-aligning your beliefs so that you are not getting in your own way!). In the case of voices, no solution is needed because there is not necessarily a problem.

4. If you truly believe you are under psychic attack, there are spiritual/magical measures you can take. A very simply spell is to visualize yourself surrounded by white light (or any color that speaks to you of safety), such that no ill intent can cross into that light to harm you. A more complicated one, as I understand it, is the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram - it is part of ceremonial magic traditions, which I am not so well versed in. If you are religious, and prayer is part of your religious tradition, then pray. Contact whatever Deity, spirit guide or totem animal you believe in, and invoke their protection and strength.

Myself, I do not feel concerned with psychic attack. I do not believe any psychic attack against me can succeed without my cooperation. So my own solution would be to make sure I'm not cooperating! Pessimistic attitudes, fear, feelings of helplessness - these are themselves causes of ill fortune, unsafety, and helplessness. So I address and correct those, rather than look for some external source of protection or healing, in these cases.

If you can get ahold of a book by Rick Stack called "Adventures Out of the Body," I recommend it. He is a strong proponent of the sort of belief work I mention above.

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Re: some questions about astral projection
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2009, 11:49:01 PM »
this is not all the answers but maybe it will help - no one can prevent you from astral projection except yourself. you are ultimately in control - escpecially if you understand that concept. hope this helps!

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Re: some questions about astral projection
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2009, 01:34:38 AM »
"you are ultimately in control - escpecially if you understand that concept."

That's a really important concept for a lot of things in life, not just astral projection. It's amazing how getting rid of fears and strengthening one's sense of security help make life a better place~!

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Re: some questions about astral projection
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2009, 12:39:59 AM »
For your third answer I would like to suggest you to practice Yoga Nidra daily, it will help you a lot. Basically it helps in controlling your mind in your unconscious state and in astral projection one's body splits into two parts, the astral body and physical body. The astral body is somewhat your unconscious state of mind, where there is no fear.

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Re: some questions about astral projection
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2009, 08:33:08 AM »
    1. Can somebody from astral world prevent me from astral projection?

yes, and what's more your astral state can be controlled by another/others as well unless you are well practiced at being consciously aware of what your astral is doing as you are astralling.

    2. i hear someone else speak, different voices

you may be hearing other living mortals. i consider that most likely, although it could be ghosts, creatures of spirit or other people's astrals.

    3. what are the solutions for the above?

keen awareness. be aware, make notes if you can of all said around you. do not put yourself in positions or circumstance where you might be manipulated. for astralling focus on a mental defence that you created and meditate on it. something "if control is not mine i race to my body". if you want to sit and meditate, burn incenses like myrrh, neroli or one called "worth", frankincense. and meditate in an enclosed room to keep the incense strongly in the air. under no circumstance listen to audio material which alters your brain wave patterns waking or sleeping.

    4. Those people(spirits) try to deceive me, control my body. and what are the solutions(Spiritual & Medical)? and how can i heal this.

firstly i recommend saying to yourself not with mouth, not with your mind but with your heart "i withdraw into myself", three times. it's been reported to me that some even feel an immediate effect and the urge to sigh out loud.

secondly be aware that as human beings it is our eyes which we most use to judge the sincerity of a person - we instinctively read their body language. but when it comes to beings invisible we are without this vital tool to judge their sincerity. they can fake their vocal expressions, project any image they want into our minds to pretend friendliness, or that they are benign or wise. but remember they are just acting.

thirdly there are two tumble stones you should by if you feel that your soul may have been disturbed. jet (black jet from coal, not the tree) to soothe the spirit and tektite to discourage ghosts passing through your body. i wear one of each at all times to my skin, one at my left ankle or leg and the other at my right.
if all you see is 'suffering' then that is all you will feel. look for what is better in yourself and see only that.

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Re: some questions about astral projection
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2009, 01:17:53 AM »
That's a fair enough explanation, I think you should be more concentrated while doing it and also you should try some yoga also to improve your concentration and make your mind strong.

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Re: some questions about astral projection
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2009, 06:20:41 PM »
Michael , I think that yoga is a great idea to improve your concentration when you are doing astral projection ...

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Re: some questions about astral projection
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2009, 03:53:01 PM »
Michael , I think that yoga is a great idea to improve your concentration when you are doing astral projection ...


Yeah, I also agree to that. It really works. I am not saying that it is my personal experience but I had also read somewhere that yoga is useful for performing astral projection. It was quoted somewhere in one book of astral projection.


 

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