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racechick79

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« on: July 28, 2012, 08:59:40 PM »
We have been having a discussion about this on another forum, and I wondered what your thoughts were on the whole debate.  Since they are clearly and openly a Christian based business, does it offend you?  I would just like to hear some of your feedback and thoughts on what has been going on. 

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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2012, 11:35:06 PM »
My understanding of the law, which admittedly is murky, is that companies have a right to take any stand they want on politics and religion so long as they don't limit their business to customers based on that. On a personal level I think it's a mistake. When it comes to homosexuality Chick-Fil-A will probably lose more business than it will gain because of the rising acceptance of homosexuality. If I owned a business I would stay out of politics and religion all together. Customers pay the bills.
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2012, 03:31:10 AM »
This has been Chick-Fil-A stance for quite some time. I not really sure why it's getting a lot of attention right now. Perhaps because it's an election year.

I don't call myself a Christian, but I do respect the rights of the owners of Chick-Fil-A. I don't agree with their stance though. As far as I know, there isn't a restaurant near me, but I wouldn't continue to patronize their business. I have eaten at their restaurant before when I visited my Mom in Huntsville, AL. I must say their sandwiches are delicious. 

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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2012, 07:50:13 PM »
It does not offend me that they are Christian-based. They are allowed their own beliefs just as I am. It only concerns me when they are actively trying to remove that same right to having your own beliefs from other people....i.e.-putting money into groups who actively try to prevent same sex marriage rights.

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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2012, 09:29:05 PM »
Jessi, that's an excellent point. Thanks for bringing it to light. I guess it's a matter of whether or not one believes homosexuality causes harm. Lesbians are pretty safe just because of the way the anatomy is. Male gays are at risk though. Of course then sexism comes into it. On the other hand male gays have sex even when they are not married so in terms of gay marriage what difference does it make?

The only real objection to gay marriage would be the belief that God is against it. Personally, I don't put much stock in the Bible. It contradicts itself constantly. It says that God made us so why do we have gays? It says that what God is against cannot exist so why do we have gays? The notion that homosexuality is a choice is false. As a heterosexual I can attest that a true heterosexual never has any homosexual thoughts.
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2012, 01:59:04 AM »
It does not offend me that they are Christian-based. They are allowed their own beliefs just as I am. It only concerns me when they are actively trying to remove that same right to having your own beliefs from other people....i.e.-putting money into groups who actively try to prevent same sex marriage rights.

This is a very valid point. I have never thought about it from that point of view. Basically, I just think it's fear. Wouldn't it be a wonderful world that even if we disagreed with an individual's choice, we respected it and didn't try to prevent others from living their life the way they choose? That's my paradise.

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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2012, 02:26:25 AM »
Hardison, yes, a lot of it is fear. Your very next line is what I would wish for, too, though....that it's okay for us to disagree, so long as we don't go around stomping on other people in the process.

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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2012, 07:56:24 PM »
It is not only that Chik-Fil-A puts money into anti-gay groups (Including money to congress to try and get them to not condemn Uganda's "Kill the gays" bill) but they also won't hire LGBT employees. They can refuse employment for them and fire current ones who they discover to be gay. This is still legal in many states and is a big part of the boycott against them.

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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2012, 02:28:47 AM »
but they also won't hire LGBT employees. They can refuse employment for them and fire current ones who they discover to be gay. This is still legal in many states and is a big part of the boycott against them.

Really?

I thought it was a national law that prevented them from discriminating based on sexual orientation. I guess that's probably hoping for too much, though.

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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2012, 07:38:12 PM »
Really?

I thought it was a national law that prevented them from discriminating based on sexual orientation. I guess that's probably hoping for too much, though.

I thought so too but the deal with Chik-Fil-A taught me a lot of things I didn't know. It is still legal in the majority of U.S. States to discriminate against LGBT people. That includes employment-wise too.

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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2012, 03:46:55 PM »
I think the CEO is entitled to take whatever stance he wants when he is talking to like-minded people, and his comments are not intended for national broadcast, which is the case here. There are no signs in the restaurants saying 'No Gays' or anything like that, so why can't the whole thing be allowed to die down?

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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2012, 05:29:43 PM »
Everybody loves a good scandal. It remind me of when rapper Eminem was being criticized for using slurs against homosexuals in his raps. Never mind the fact that rap music glorifies every form of bigotry and profanity there is ...
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2012, 02:43:31 AM »
I think the CEO is entitled to take whatever stance he wants when he is talking to like-minded people, and his comments are not intended for national broadcast, which is the case here. There are no signs in the restaurants saying 'No Gays' or anything like that, so why can't the whole thing be allowed to die down?

It's not dying down precisely because there are no signs. Nobody understands that they have a policy to not hire LGBT individuals. That's more than ten percent of every person in the U.S. and none of them are allowed to work there. In most of the states, that kind of discrimination is still legal and we're fighting to change that.

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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2012, 05:27:02 AM »
writer811, can you think of a reason why a homosexual would want to work there? We are talking about a minimum wage fast food job that believes homosexuals will burn in hell forever.
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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2012, 08:07:04 PM »
writer811, can you think of a reason why a homosexual would want to work there? We are talking about a minimum wage fast food job that believes homosexuals will burn in hell forever.

WANT to? No, not particularly. Unfortunately, money is money and sometimes you have to do it anyway. Or maybe they worked there before they realized how against things the company was and now they don't want to lose that income?


 

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