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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2012, 02:18:31 PM »
It's certainly not ONLY religion that is responsible, but religion DOES add to the burden with their own unique blend of insanities, a blend that is conspicuously absent from non-religious crimes. I doubt that there's any way to actually break down a list of crimes (except the most blatant) into "Religiously Motivated" and "Non-Religiously Motivated", but I would be willing to bet that it ends up somewhere around 40/60 religious/non-religious.

If I didn't believe in God I might not kill in His name; if I didn't see the priesthood as being a haven for pedophiles I might not have had the opportunity to abuse children, and if it wasn't against the mandate of my faith I might have taken my child to a doctor instead of a mortician.

I actually don't deny that there are those extreme cases; and agree that there probably is a fair amount of crime that could somehow be tied back to religion.  I just believe that part of the reason that such a large number could be attributed back to something religious is because of the sheer large numbers of people who are somehow associated with some kind of religion.  If atheism became as prevalant as religion and was the majority of the members of society, many would be saying that most crimes were attributed to atheism because somehow most of the crimes could be traced back to somebody who was an atheist or had some atheistic tie.  Do you understand what I mean?

I actually don't disagree with you on most of your points because all of those things are horrible and I think all of us would love to see a way to prevent it.

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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2012, 07:44:07 AM »
Real problem with science is that it cannot disprove God, but either can prove it so, what can we do?
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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #32 on: July 14, 2012, 07:52:04 AM »
I think one day God will disprove science.

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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2012, 05:01:17 AM »
So you accept Science cannot disprove God. What is the problem if people follow religions till God is disproved?
There's no problem with people believing in what they want to believe so long as they aren't causing harm to other people. You seem to assume that most atheists want people to stop believing in religion, that is not true. Just about every atheist I have ever encountered is only against religion when it puts people in harms way. Sure there are radical atheists who want to see the end of religion but I assure you they are only a vocal minority. Much like religious extremists are a vocal minority, yet they get more attention because they are very vocal about their beliefs.

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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2012, 07:15:31 AM »
There's no problem with people believing in what they want to believe so long as they aren't causing harm to other people. You seem to assume that most atheists want people to stop believing in religion, that is not true. Just about every atheist I have ever encountered is only against religion when it puts people in harms way. Sure there are radical atheists who want to see the end of religion but I assure you they are only a vocal minority. Much like religious extremists are a vocal minority, yet they get more attention because they are very vocal about their beliefs.

I didn't know that. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2012, 08:36:14 PM »
science cannot disprove god nor can it prove love itself...we can see acts of love,but where is love itself?...where can i see it?...the truth is that i cant,but we can see acts of love,we can feel love it and show it etc

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Science doesn't really prove or disprove anything. It can't. Science can only show that something is more probable or less probable. A lot of people treat science as it is the cure for everything. The height of all possible reason. It's not. And this is coming from someone with a science background. I never knew it was "revered" like that until I discovered certain forums.

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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2012, 10:02:18 PM »
I agree with agncvw - the problem is with people giving their will over to human religious authorities. Also with people using their religions as justification for their pre-existing nasty impulses.

I agree with both of you, especially "giving their will over to human religious authorities," which has been going on for the past 2 millinea. I quoted an interview between Alex Jones and Dick Gregory on another forum and it's applicable here.

Alex Jones: "The tiny ultra elite wages war on everyone, (race, or religion doesn't matter), they play the sub-groups against each other because those in control are so small. Those in control are weak and powerless unless they play us against each other."


Dick Gregory: "That's why America covers up any information regarding alien beings, or beings from other planets because if you admit there are other beings that occupy this universe with us, white supremacy goes out the window, organized religion goes out the window, and the worst thing to those in control, it would no longer matter whether you lived in Chicago, New York, or Los Angeles, we would become Earth people."
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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2012, 11:19:23 AM »
I actually don't deny that there are those extreme cases; and agree that there probably is a fair amount of crime that could somehow be tied back to religion.  I just believe that part of the reason that such a large number could be attributed back to something religious is because of the sheer large numbers of people who are somehow associated with some kind of religion.  If atheism became as prevalant as religion and was the majority of the members of society, many would be saying that most crimes were attributed to atheism because somehow most of the crimes could be traced back to somebody who was an atheist or had some atheistic tie.  Do you understand what I mean?
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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2012, 04:03:35 AM »
Science also can't disprove that Unicorns exist or that Fairies exist, etc. If someone is making a claim that something exists, the onus is on them to prove it... But to answer your question,  I'm fine with people practicing anything they want, as long as it doesn't effect me.
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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2012, 10:56:50 PM »
Science cannot prove there is a god, but religion cannot prove god also, so then why go through your life worshipping something that cannot and has not been proven, you don't need to believe in anything, you are what you are, and that is simply what is, find out who you truly are, not something outside of you, or something that someone has told you, this will always be secondhand, never new, you are truth and truth can never be packaged and sold, forget about god, this silly concept has forever kept so many from realizing their true Self, you are much bigger than that, be bold and take what is yours, no need to crawl on your hands and knees,  you are the divine, you only need to truly realize it and that is all.
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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #40 on: December 12, 2012, 12:26:18 PM »
Becasue of this fact I prefer to read spiritual book without religion
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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #41 on: December 12, 2012, 10:52:57 PM »
Yes reading so called spiritual books without religion can be much better, but even the scriptures have been written by man, no matter how holy one is, as soon as you try to express that intuitive experience it becomes tainted by the mind body, so we have to see beyond the words, and even that needs spiritual discernment, so many are blinded by the words, they cling to the story and miss the whole point of the story, they also miss out on what is here, now, there are so many beautiful writings that are much more helpful than any scriptures of the dead past, in fact I think we all should make our own scriptures, not written on paper or whatever, but written in our hearts.
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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #42 on: December 30, 2012, 04:51:37 PM »
Why not read a spiritual book with the truth? No religion. Just read the 4 reviews, then decide if it is worth reading a 25 page book that is free:

Deal Or No Deal; The True Meaning of Life

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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #43 on: December 30, 2012, 10:39:55 PM »
Why not read a spiritual book with the truth? No religion. Just read the 4 reviews, then decide if it is worth reading a 25 page book that is free:

Deal Or No Deal; The True Meaning of Life

But who is it that is going to judge if its truth or not, esspeically if one doesn't even know what is truth in the first place.
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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2012, 11:28:31 PM »
C'mon man. You and I are teammates. Give life a chance. You have to expect that 99% of people just don't get it, but every now and then, you meet one you like.

The real heroes I run into tend to stay around for a few months and then go on their way. They always find a cause to work on.

Enjoy the good ones when you find em. I have much to offer, and I listen much better than you might think. I promise, I am one of the good guys. Give me a chance.

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