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eniyan

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Science cannot disprove God?
« on: July 06, 2009, 11:16:20 AM »
So you accept Science cannot disprove God. What is the problem if people follow religions till God is disproved?

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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2009, 11:26:36 AM »
Science cannot disprove God as well as they cannot disprove Apollo or Juju or Thor with his hammer or even a Flying Spaghetti Monster creating the universe. However, we do not believe them as they are unlikely to exist. We do neither believe in fairies of Hans Andersen although we cannot disprove them. To believe in an unlikely event or a deity only because we cannot disprove it, sounds foolish to me.

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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2009, 07:56:17 PM »
It is obviously impossible for science to disprove the existence of a god, because there's nothing tangible about it.  If I announce that there's a giant teapot floating somewhere out in space, there is no way for anyone else to disprove my statement either - but the chances are that people will nudge one another and exchange significant glances.  Everyone tacitly acknowledges that the onus is on me to prove my statement, not for someone else to disprove it.

As far as people choosing to follow religions, that's another can of worms.  In theory, there's no problem at all if people feel the need to belong to an organised group, provided that they understand that theirs is a personal choice based on an article of faith.  The problem is not that people believe in the existence of a god, but that they then extend that to give themselves the right to dictate to other people who have not chosen to make that leap of faith. 

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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2009, 09:33:31 PM »
It's worth noting that many respected scientists are themselves religious. Not every scientist is an atheist.

I agree with agncvw - the problem is with people giving their will over to human religious authorities. Also with people using their religions as justification for their pre-existing nasty impulses.

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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2009, 03:13:37 AM »
It is true that science cannot disprove the existence of God, but most scientists after discovering the magnificence of God's creation, are awed by the order of things created by God. Although they are not converted, they acknowledge that there must be something that made all things possible.

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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2009, 12:04:19 PM »
Can you cite any empirical studies about this?  Because as far as I am aware, the majority of scientists realise that the extent of scientific knowledge now removes the need for any kind of creator and are quite happy to be atheists.  And even the ones who continue to be religious reconcile the two by assuming that evolution took place according to some divine masterplan, but will acknowledge that that is purely a matter of faith and has nothing to do with science.

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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2009, 05:03:16 PM »
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but most scientists after discovering the magnificence of God's creation, are awed by the order of things created by God. Although they are not converted, they acknowledge that there must be something that made all things possible.

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Because as far as I am aware, the majority of scientists realise that the extent of scientific knowledge now removes the need for any kind of creator and are quite happy to be atheists.

Cite, please, both of you! If you're going to make claims about what "most scientists" or "the majority of scientists" believe, you'd better have quotes and studies to back this up. And if you don't have anything to back up this claim - then you're just making crap up, which is also known as lying.

You, the Christian! Doesn't your holy book say "Thou shalt not bear false witness"? You, the atheist! How strong can your case be if you have to lie to argue for it? The scientific method is based on the data you actually observe, not the data you wish was there!

I am going to guess that "most scientists" would prefer not to have random schmucks on the internet make stupid, uninformed, unsubstantiated generalizations about them, or claim them as spokespeople for their big evangelical cause (that includes atheists who try to convert people to atheism) without their permision. But this is only a guess. I wouldn't presume to speak for "the majority of scientists." That would be rude.

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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2009, 07:50:04 AM »
I just want to know what kind of 'God' that atheists don't believe. My guess is the God that religious people believe, someone/something sitting in a place so-called Heaven, rewarding and punishing here and there....
There are many people following various spiritual streams that believe in God in a completely different way than the religious people do. Maybe atheists should consider that also before believing that God doesn't exist.

mamabear

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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2009, 04:37:35 AM »
So you accept Science cannot disprove God. What is the problem if people follow religions till God is disproved?

Science cannot disprove the existence of God. Neither do they prove the existence of God. They never tried. Or they are afraid to try. It will be such a complex study that would involve everything in the whole universe and beyond. They could not even determine the infinity of creation.

krisskross

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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2009, 07:33:19 AM »
Well, that's true. But science and religion can't be put together, because we know that fact that they will contradict with each other. Like the existence of the world, some would point out the big bang theory, God's reaction theory, and etc. Which one of them you used to believed?

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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2009, 02:41:42 AM »
There are many things in this world for which science do not have a answer. A perfect example is scientific power of prayer. According to an experiment conducted in "School of medicine of Columbia University", prayer is not only helpful in day-today"s life, but also helpful in the condition where no option remains.The experiment was done on 100 woman"s which were unable to conceive. A group prayer was performed for them without telling the and it showed positive results. A detailed description of this experiment was published in "Journal of Reproductive Health". You can find  more about it by following my blog.

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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2009, 12:31:51 PM »
Science doesn't disapprove God, in fact, its always exploring things made by God. It is always that some Scientist disapprove of God and we cannot implicate Science for that.

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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2009, 05:41:38 PM »
Science cannot disprove god because the origin of this science had started with the god and his creation.

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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2012, 01:41:25 PM »
So you accept Science cannot disprove God. What is the problem if people follow religions till God is disproved?

How could anyone disprove something that doesn't exist? and regarding your questions about what the problem is when people follow their religion, I think it doesn't take a genius to know that majority of all the problems and wars throughout history was caused by religion, if you dont believe me, just ask yourself, why an islamic fanatic likes to strap bombs into himself and blowing up innocent people along with him.

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Re: Science cannot disprove God?
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2012, 01:31:37 AM »
Can you cite any empirical studies about this?  Because as far as I am aware, the majority of scientists realise that the extent of scientific knowledge now removes the need for any kind of creator and are quite happy to be atheists.  And even the ones who continue to be religious reconcile the two by assuming that evolution took place according to some divine masterplan, but will acknowledge that that is purely a matter of faith and has nothing to do with science.

I very much doubt that scientific knowledge removes the need for any kind of creator in a theist sense.  Since they do not know what came before the big bang or how the big bang came to be it would be outrageous for any scientist to claim such a thing.


 

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