Author Topic: The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster  (Read 6852 times)

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Re: The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2012, 11:33:26 AM »
... If you have so little going for you that you need to start a religion in order to mock others then you need to take a long hard look at yourself because a bullet to the brain may be your best choice.
... or at least a crucifixion, huh? How about if they set themselves on fire like the Buddhists? Or maybe let poisonous snakes bite them like the Appalachian churches? Or scourge themselves? Or, if we're feeling a bit more charitable, maybe we could just make them feel guilty if they eat meat on Fridays.

Religion was parodying itself long before FSM came along ...

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Re: The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2012, 04:47:35 PM »
History shows us how easy it is to control people. That has been a worthwhile pursuit for egotists for all time. In America, the goverment is controlled by orgainized crime and they surely want the population to worship money. I have firsthand experience with formidable foes who routinely implement extreme fear into good people and maintain control.

Just think how religion compares to reality. We can make fun of everthing that life offers, as we are human. If you want to parody something become an alien and watch humans. It is all a joke. In the past there was a sincere need for the basics of life. Now we are all part of a weakness. Individually we may be strong and smart, but there is little or nothing to team up with.

So, what organization has actual integrity in any manner whatsoever?

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Re: The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2012, 05:30:24 PM »
Is it true that it was first started as a way to protest the teaching of creationsim in schools? I don't really know for certain because nobody seems to know where they came from.

In the case of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, it is a satirical religion, which was brought to prominence when an Austrian fought for several years for the right to wear a pasta strainer on his head for his driver's licence photo, claiming it was religious headgear. There's more on the story here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14135523

I have no problem with it - their belief system is a valid one, simply because they believe. They're not going to start any wars, so we needn't worry about deadly pasta flying around the world.

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Re: The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2012, 04:36:11 PM »
Their belief system is not a legitimate one. It's based on a joke and a deity that they themselves admit does not exist. Mockery is not a legitimate religion. 
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Re: The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2012, 07:25:53 PM »
Your statement has perfectly illustrated the reason this post is on this forum. PERFECTLY.

People who speak up for truth attract attention from those who are consumed by this vibrating world. Those who judge others and want to always get their way...to support their false self-image. This is almost the whole meaning of life.

"not a legitimate one"

That is like saying "there is nothing else". Forgiving ourselves is our quest. If we all could do that humanity will have conquered the world and displayed the integrity that we possess only as potential.

Can a judgmental person look within and judge themself? Doing a good job here is a good thing. Now discover why you do what you do. Or, takew the easy way out and ignore me. You define humanity right now, right here.

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Re: The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2012, 02:13:19 AM »
Wow - for a chunk of levitating pasta the FSM has certainly triggered some pretty heavy discussions ... ;)

Gee - maybe that was His ulterior motive all along.

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Re: The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2012, 04:28:49 PM »
... or at least a crucifixion, huh? How about if they set themselves on fire like the Buddhists? Or maybe let poisonous snakes bite them like the Appalachian churches? Or scourge themselves? Or, if we're feeling a bit more charitable, maybe we could just make them feel guilty if they eat meat on Fridays.

Religion was parodying itself long before FSM came along ...

If any of the above happened to the members of FSM, I would not be upset at all.  I am a joker and find humor in everything but starting a religion based on mockery and bullshit then being able to get tax benefits because of it really annoys me.  It is the equivalent of that dude who uses his food stamps to buy milk but then gets in his BMW and drives away.

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Re: The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2012, 06:03:12 PM »
If any of the above happened to the members of FSM, I would not be upset at all.  I am a joker and find humor in everything but starting a religion based on mockery and bullshit then being able to get tax benefits because of it really annoys me.  It is the equivalent of that dude who uses his food stamps to buy milk but then gets in his BMW and drives away.
I get what you're saying and it's cool you respect religion enough to say it. Me, I pretty much don't have ANY sacred cows that I wouldn't make a triple cheeseburger out of.

As for the tax exemptions - you might want to point your ire at the IRS, not at the groups themselves - they're the ones that passed the laws, them and your friendly local politicos. The groups are just taking advantage of the legal rules that are already in place - anyone that starts their own organization can do it.

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Re: The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2012, 08:05:29 PM »
I get what you're saying and it's cool you respect religion enough to say it. Me, I pretty much don't have ANY sacred cows that I wouldn't make a triple cheeseburger out of.

As for the tax exemptions - you might want to point your ire at the IRS, not at the groups themselves - they're the ones that passed the laws, them and your friendly local politicos. The groups are just taking advantage of the legal rules that are already in place - anyone that starts their own organization can do it.

I get it, but just because it can be done does it mean that it has to be done?  Everything has a loophole to expose if you look hard enough but are you willing to look hard enough to find it?  Most will say no, but then some douchebags come along and that is where we are now.

It brings me back to my last example; anyone can manipulate the system and drive their BMW to Walmart and use their WIC to buy milk but good, decent people chose to take the right path and not hustle the government out of taxpayer dollars.

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Re: The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster
« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2012, 03:49:08 PM »
I get it, but just because it can be done does it mean that it has to be done?
I suppose that depends upon one's life philosophy - some people climb mountains simply because they're there.

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  Everything has a loophole to expose if you look hard enough but are you willing to look hard enough to find it?  Most will say no, but then some douchebags come along and that is where we are now.
It would be a dull world without douchebags - who would we rag on then - the artists? Politicians?

No, wait, they're one and the same.

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It brings me back to my last example; anyone can manipulate the system and drive their BMW to Walmart and use their WIC to buy milk but good, decent people chose to take the right path and not hustle the government out of taxpayer dollars.
*Shrug*

I think it all comes down to perception. Listen to the stories of those Beemer folk some time - it might be enlightening. Perhaps more importantly, if we choose to take the high moral road should we not be looking ahead rather than behind?


 

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