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Those who wish to be coined an 'Atheist'
« on: April 11, 2012, 04:53:30 PM »
Stigmatized much?

Labeled an 'Atheist'?

You know I am being logical... another human word to brand a social aspect of life... no I am not an 'Atheist' I am a logical human being - I do NOT wish to be hit with the words of hate from every branch of the hater tree!

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Re: Those who wish to be coined an 'Atheist'
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2012, 11:14:16 AM »
Same here, my friend. I think the label atheist makes it a lot more limiting and has a good chance of becoming just another religion. I also just prefer to have no labels for myself and as you say just call myself logical. Personally, the term atheist to me seems to much like a religion that just fights against other religions. I would just rather do away with all these labels altogether and just live quietly.

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Re: Those who wish to be coined an 'Atheist'
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2012, 03:51:40 PM »
Although I also generally eschew labels, the fact is that when you live in society you ARE going to be labeled, whether you like it or not. People often will not let-up until they have you neatly categorized.

So what do you do then? Walk away? Refuse to do business with them, or refuse to let your kids play with theirs? How about when they spray-paint your house and business - do you still just walk away then, claiming logic as your only belief?

Being unlabeled is fine in theory; in practice, it still presents certain unique problems.

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Re: Those who wish to be coined an 'Atheist'
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2012, 04:52:31 AM »
There's no problem being labeled something if the label is a correct description about you. The problem is what people associate with atheism--immorality, evilness, subversiveness, and the list goes on. What you should try to do is to make people realize why they're wrong in what they think about people who don't believe in God, or "atheists" (if that's what you are).

Call me an atheist because that's what I am. I don't believe in any god or follow any religion. Unfortunately, I will have to deal with the stones that people throw at me. My objective will be to convince them why they are wrong in throwing stones.

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Re: Those who wish to be coined an 'Atheist'
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2012, 02:23:14 PM »
Ah, but labels carry an inherent flaw: they aren't comprehensive enough to describe our individual variations. I could be labeled an atheist, but that doesn't even come close to my beliefs (or lack of them). They could label me an agnostic, but again that would fall short of describing me.

Eventually, they'd have to use so many labels to identify and categorize me that they'd lose sight of the fact that underneath all those labels lies a MAN. I am NOT my beliefs - they are just a small part of me.

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Re: Those who wish to be coined an 'Atheist'
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2012, 03:02:02 PM »
What bothers me about labels is that once people have packed me neatly into whatever category they've deemed I belong to, they begin having a discussion with a fictional, one-dimensional character - not me.  It's very frustrating.  I'm a Christian, yes, but I do not believe my faith is the only path to, well, anything - peace, heaven, understanding, whatever.  I'm a liberal, yes, but I have conservative views on a number of different issues.  I'm a mother, yes, but that is not the only interest I have in my life - you can talk to me about other stuff besides diapers and children's shows.  And the list goes on, and on. 

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Re: Those who wish to be coined an 'Atheist'
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2012, 07:52:43 PM »
Labels are both necessary and dehumanizing. On one hand, labeling people makes them "different" in your mind. They become something other than your view of "normal". But labels are also needed to avoid the chaos that would come of not being able to differentiate between people. Even your name is a label. Civilization needs labels to function.

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Re: Those who wish to be coined an 'Atheist'
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2012, 11:01:32 PM »
Being unlabeled is fine in theory; in practice, it still presents certain unique problems.

Yep. Labels really do fill a role and while I may not like all of them or the connotations that come with them, they're still important.

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Re: Those who wish to be coined an 'Atheist'
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2012, 04:55:57 AM »
I see your point because you would be browbeaten by that "hater tree." What's ironic about being labeled and Atheist is that some who either choose that label, or are branded as Atheist, like Sam Harris, really have extremely lucid, educated opinions, but are ostracized and demonized before they open their mouth to speak.
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Re: Those who wish to be coined an 'Atheist'
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2012, 11:04:54 PM »
Well A-theist just mean you are not a theist. The term is stigmatized in some cultures, though. But where I'm from, your religious preferences aren't really an issue.

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Re: Those who wish to be coined an 'Atheist'
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2012, 03:23:02 AM »
It's pretty difficult to avoid being lumped into at least a couple of the silly social categories we've all made up for ourselves. It's a great tool used to keep people all separated and feuding with each other so that we don't just get together and work as one big group for the better of everyone.

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Re: Those who wish to be coined an 'Atheist'
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2012, 02:22:18 PM »
I don't really care about labels, for me it's just convenient to say that I'm an atheist, because if I say it, I don't need to explain anything. Also, having the right to call myself an atheist is something that I had to fight for for many years. Too many years. I was raised in an orthodox catholic family and none of my family members was able to accept my lack of beliefs. No matter what I said or did, I was still forced to act like catholic and to pretend that I'm one of them. I'm an adult now and I'm free in my choices, so it's probably just childish contrariness, but I really enjoy calling myself an atheist.


 

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