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Yes, we do expect to much and that is judgemental in my opinion. Cast the first stone kind of thing. We have to work toward being a better Christian and sometimes mistakes does that for us.

Yes, we do expect to much and that is judgemental in my opinion. Cast the first stone kind of thing. We have to work toward being a better Christian and sometimes mistakes does that for us.

There's an old saying that 'Anyone who never made a mistake, never made anything,' and like many old sayings, there's a lot of truth in it. Nobody is perfect, and we shouldn't expect perfection of our fellow Christians. We cannot know the circumstances of another person's perceived sin, and in my book, it's more important to be kind and considerate to others than to have a gold star for good behaviour in the conventional sense.

You can live a Christian life and also make mistakes - the two are not mutually exclusive.

I agree we sometimes go too far with judgment of others. Not one of us knows what perfection is until you read about Christ. We all make mistakes and we suffer the consequences of those mistakes. I try not to separate myself from others. I just work on my spiritual connection to God. I still have much to learn and overcome. We should all concentrate more on being a good person, than a perfect Christian.

Yes but it is the judgemental nature of some Christians that contributes to them being perceived in this way, especially when they proclaim that any non believers are wrong and will burn in hell!

And I'm not Christian but I and many others like me also try to live as good people, but do not tell those of other religions that they are condemned.

I think people do condemn and attack Christianity way too often.  Yes, we all mess up and the history of Catholic church is quite corrupt (I'm Catholic btw), but who doesn't make mistakes? In American and European society, Christianity in general is used as a scapegoat.  People poke fun at Christians and condemn mostly Christian actions, which is quite unfair.  If a Catholic priest is condemned of molestation, it automatically means the whole Catholic church is made up of pedophiles.  What logic is there in this? There are good and bad people in every religion, such as the Muslim extremists (Chechyna for example).  The Raven calls the Crow black, the hypocrisy in society is evident in the amount of expectations people hold Christians up to.

My mentioning of Muslim extremists above, is not meant to be an attack on the religion of Islam btw. As of matter of fact my best friend is a Muslim.  I'd like to state that I'm not against Islam in any way or form, I don't believe in it, but I do respect it and it's adherents.  My best friend is a good example of a pious Muslim and I try to emulate and instill the same piousness when I worship Jesus as well.

We can all learn from one another, no need to condemn and hate on anyone.   

and there you are judging all atheists and pagans - thanks for proving my point

*shrugs* Take it any way you want to take it. I'm not the person trolling here. In my experience, atheists and neo-pagans spend more time trying to discredit Christianity than the other way around. In my experience, Christians more or less leave atheist and neo-pagans alone, unless they get in Christians' faces about certain topics. I think that says more about Christian tolerance than it does about yours.