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The Spiritual Knowledge and Logic
« on: June 11, 2011, 03:51:12 PM »
The Spiritual Knowledge and Logic

The spiritual knowledge or philosophy (Vedanta) is generally based on logic (Tarka). God is certainly above the logic and thus logic cannot touch Him (Naisha Tarkena -Veda). Nobody can show God by the indicating finger. Veda clearly states that God is beyond words, mind, intelligence and logic and the best way of explanation is silence about God. If that is so, there is no necessity of spiritual knowledge, because God cannot be known or imagined. Then what is the use of all these scriptures? Why are there so many discussions and debates?

Lord Yama says in Veda that angels and sages are still discussing about God and have concluded that God is unknowable. Here unknowable means unimaginable even to the logic. They have not conducted such long discussions to know simply that God is unknowable because it is not the object as my friend says!  If God is said to be unimaginable, what is the subject of discussions? The answer is that the logic used in long discussions is not about God but about the Non-God entities (items of creation). Certainly, we cannot know God by logic or by any other means, but we can use the logic to reject a Non-God item projected as God. When you say that awareness is God, we will use the logic and see whether awareness is an item of creation.

If it is an item of creation, certainly it can be analyzed by logic. If logic fails to analyze it, certainly we will accept it as God. Similarly we shall apply the logic to several entities rejected as God and see whether any item is beyond logic.
 
The logic is the analytical faculty supported by practical examples, which stands as experimental verification. The ancient Indian logic was developed based on practical examples like mud pot etc. The advancement in logic took place from time to time and the logic was more and more sharpened. The authoritative parameters (Pramanas) have improved in number and therefore the schools of Nyaya, Vaiseshika and Vedanta differed in the subject of logic.  The number of Pramanas increased from 2 to 4 and finally became 6 in Vedanta.  This shows the improvement of logic in course of time.  Today science is the most advanced logic since the experimental verification was improved. Therefore if I am explaining the philosophy based on science, it means that the philosophy is more and more clear due to the advanced logic. I told you already that the logic (science) is only useful to refuse any item of creation as not God.

The creator cannot be any item of the creation. If creator becomes creation, there must be some other creator for this creator to become the creation. Ad-infinitum (Anavastha) results. Science disproved some conclusions of the earlier logic and this should not be misunderstood as refusing God. God is in no way touched because the earlier logic also was dealing with only the analysis of created items. Tarka means the analysis of the items of creation, which are indicated and understood by their corresponding names or words (Tarkyante Padarthah Asminniti….).   God is beyond all the words and cannot be the understood meaning of any word and therefore, logic cannot touch God. 

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Re: The Spiritual Knowledge and Logic
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2011, 02:31:17 PM »
Yes it would be endless to think that the creator of all creations had been created too and it will be an endless cycle. Definitely the creator has a immeasurable knowledge and could not be leveled by any of his creations. Faith is necessary to further understand the will and creation of God.

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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2012, 08:54:03 PM »
I see God in his creations. It is said man was created in his image (OT). Only God can create a tree rock sky and Earth. Therefore I have a Earthly sense of God. I have been touched by God. Touched is the only spiritual word that applies here. So in that sense God is real to me as is John 3:16. If I can sense Gods creativeness wind sun light darkness then I am blessed.

It is written "I will not always dwell with man" and "Hope are things not seen but hoped for"? maybe that's Gods way of telling me he is there by his creations. I am still lacking spiritual senses. pl


 

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