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DiminishingInsanity

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Immortality for Humans by 2045
« on: August 20, 2012, 03:01:00 PM »
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A Russian mogul wants to achieve cybernetic immortality for humans within the next 33 years. He's pulled together a team intent on creating fully functional holographic human avatars that house our artificial brains. Now he's asking billionaires to help fund the advancements needed along the way.

The man behind the 2045 Initiative, described as a nonprofit organization, is a Russian named Dmitry Itskov. The ambitious timeline he's laid out involves creating different avatars. First a robotic copy that's controlled remotely through a brain interface. Then one in which a human brain can be transplanted at the end of life. The next could house an artificial human brain, and finally we'd have holographic avatars containing our intelligence much like the movie "Surrogates."
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Gizmag's Dario Borghino wisely warned that "one must be careful not to believe that improbable technological advances automatically become more likely simply by looking further away in the future." And in the grand scheme of things, 2045 is not that far away. So just how likely is it that this project will succeed? For more insight, let's check in with Ted Williams. Oh, wait.

Recently Itskov published an open letterto the Forbes world's billionaires list telling them that they have the ability to finance the extension of their own lives up to immortality. He writes that he can prove the concept's viability to anyone who's skeptical and will coordinate their personal immortality projects for free. PopSci's Clay Dillowdescribed Itskov in March as a 31-year-old media mogul, but I couldn't find a detailed biography for him.

The project's ultimate goal is to save people from suffering and death. While there are smart experts involved, that's no guarantee that human immortality is even a goal worth pursuing. Anyone caught up in the vampire mania that's punctured popular culture has pondered whether, given a choice, you'd actually want to live forever.

For me, there's a world of difference between pursuing a brain-controlled exoskeleton to help paraplegics regain control and wanting to essentially upload a human brain into an artificial body. I read a sci-fi novel involving disembodied live brains once. It didn't turn out well.

http://news.discovery.com/tech/human-immortality-2045-120727.html#mkcpgn=rssnws1

Well, I guess that's one way to achieve immortality. I wonder if such things will actually be possible in the future.
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Re: Immortality for Humans by 2045
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2012, 04:32:26 PM »
It's a very interesting idea, and one that perhaps will eventually become reality, but I'm not convinced it will happen by 2045.

Personally this isn't something I would choose, I don't think it's a good thing at all. We should look after our planet, not make it worse for everyone living on it. This planet already has over 7 billion inhabitants, and it increases everyday. If people aren't leaving to make room for others, this planet is going to become really overcrowded. Especially as the majority of the Earth's surface is water. So unless some sort of system for living on the ocean is invented, being immortal will be a curse for the planet, particularly if people still wish to have children before their brain is implanted into a robot.

The Earth has a finite quantity of natural resources that are already being exploited, if there are more and more people requiring them, we are truly screwed. Of course this project will include the invention of a free, renewable energy source won't it? Otherwise, if this man is likely to succeed, someone should stop him!

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Re: Immortality for Humans by 2045
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2012, 06:09:38 PM »
The sad truth is that we already have free, renewable energy sources. We've had the technology to solve all our energy problems for a long time now. What's missing is political will. I have a feeling that we are not going to get off of oil until the oil companies have squeezed every last dollar they can from it.

I believe one day we will have the technology to extend our lives in this way, but you're right the next 30 years seems optimistic. I don't know if I would choose it either. It will probably be way expensive, and it depends on the type of world we have. This begs the age old question "Just because we can do something does that mean we should?"
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Re: Immortality for Humans by 2045
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2012, 09:23:41 PM »
Um...no thanks!

As far as I'm concerned, life is eternal. Yes, the physical body we house is finite, but life goes on after we leave it. I don't want immorality on this planet. When it's my time to go, I will be sad, but excited to discover what's on the other side...whatever it may be.

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Re: Immortality for Humans by 2045
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2012, 10:43:58 PM »
Some scientists even think that immortality could be just 20 years away. I'd say they are optimists, but maybe they are right. Our generation may make it to immortality, so stay healthy, lol.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/6217676/Immortality-only-20-years-away-says-scientist.html


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Re: Immortality for Humans by 2045
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2012, 12:21:08 PM »
I also don't believe it will happen in 30 years or so - maybe in 100. As much as I admire Mr. Kurzweil and his accomplishments he's always been a futurist - it's what he does. I'd be disappointed if he didn't make a claim such as this.

But there ARE nibbles occurring right now around the edges, mainly in the field of life extension. Artificial organs are being developed and improved all the time, we're learning more about maintaining our health, and there's even a program called Cenegenics that offers to guide you to a "fountain of youth" through a costly life-improvement program that includes comprehensive medical testing, hormone therapy, nutritional planning and exercise guidance, all under the auspices of experts in their respective fields.

It costs $2,000 a month after the initial start-up cost ($4,000) but for many with the means this might be an attractive alternative to withering away in a nursing home. It isn't immortality - it's just a way of optimizing the aging experience - but it's something we have right now.

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Re: Immortality for Humans by 2045
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2012, 04:48:07 PM »
I do not think that being immortal or making people immortal is a good idea.  Just like what other had said about the population and sources problem. Maybe a study for cures for diseases that are still unknown or incurable until now could be a better project for them to help people not to suffer more pains or have a longer and happier life.

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Re: Immortality for Humans by 2045
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2012, 04:23:07 AM »
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The pace of change is getting faster and faster. By 2045, the pace of change will be so fast we wont be able to follow it unless we enhance our own intelligence with artificial intelligence.

http://spark.qualcomm.com/salon/ray-kurzweil-man-machine-merger?source=outbrain&type=rss&campaignid=sparkhub_2012&variation=rss

I have to admit. If a computer can be implanted into my brain to help me remember things I am intrigued.
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Re: Immortality for Humans by 2045
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2012, 12:45:03 PM »
Everything we accomplish on Earth will be erased again, like it was long ago. Our technology will be erased, and we will be living in huts again. We are not here to become Star Trek actors. We are here to establish an effective method to introduce a soul into a vibrating world.

Immortality will not happen. We are already walking a walk on the edge of evil. We will be destroyed soon enough. Until we live in truth and work for the whole, as we are in Heaven, we will be bumbling fools who just want to be pretty and have sex, and eat fancy meals.

Who lives in society and lives with truth as their definition? Geez. Oh hail the ego...oh hail the ego!

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Re: Immortality for Humans by 2045
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2012, 01:51:03 AM »
     You already are immortal, the trick is to awaken and realize it. After my dad died he came back to visit many times over the years. I asked him once why we could not remember the other side. He laughed and said; because it is so nice over here that if you all remembered the other side, there would be no one on this Earth plain. We would all kill ourselves before our journeys were over.

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Re: Immortality for Humans by 2045
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2012, 06:50:57 AM »
I agree with everything you said. Personally, I look forward to the death of my body. I've come to believe through my research that the ones who pass over are the lucky ones.
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