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How does faith work
« on: January 25, 2009, 09:03:52 PM »
I don't believe in god, nor would I subject myself to any "-ism"s,
which, though,  I gradually find impossible. How can a human live
without belief? Or rather, without faith? I have tried to see the
world in a neutral way, without any bias, to make decisions entirely
based on reality, excluding any existing conclusions. And now I find
if I want to do it right, I must possess knowledge of the whole
universe, covering even a single stone. Is it applicable? Well, so I
think faith, in its true nature, is a complement for logic. Whenever
you come across a question that cannot be answered by using your
current brain power, you resort to faith. But, I am still waiting, to
find a way through which I can achieve true freedom in mind.

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Re: How does faith work
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2009, 06:59:57 AM »
People tend to believe in "Something Higher".
Believing means accepting something which hasn't been proven to be true as true. Say you entrain to go to city 'A'. You believe that you will reach the city. You don't know if the train will really bring you there (it hasn't been proved yet). But, despite the limited information you have, you have to make a decision. So, you choose to go by the train, believing that it will bring you to your destination.
Belief, faith is a choice. You can choose to believe that God exists or doesn't exist. Both are belief.

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Re: How does faith work
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2009, 05:03:20 AM »
Since you didn't make yourself, who do you think created you? I know it was your parents, but who created them? And so forth. There was a beginning. There is a Master Creator. He created the univerese and all things in it. He created creation.

You can't ask a microwave oven its purpose and function. You need to ask its creator who usually explains what you need to know in a manual. In order to understand life, we cannot do it from our own limited perspective. It's like asking the microwave to understand the workings of the conventional oven and the refrigerator that are sitting in the same kitchen as he is. We need to ask our creator. And guess what? Our creator has put together a manual for us. It's called the Bible.



I don't believe in god, nor would I subject myself to any "-ism"s,
which, though,  I gradually find impossible. How can a human live
without belief? Or rather, without faith? I have tried to see the
world in a neutral way, without any bias, to make decisions entirely
based on reality, excluding any existing conclusions. And now I find
if I want to do it right, I must possess knowledge of the whole
universe, covering even a single stone.

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Re: How does faith work
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2009, 07:14:25 AM »
i think faith is a deep-seated 'knowing' within yourself which satisfies your world or universal perspective. i think it is the ultimate sense of centeredness and contentedness.
if all you see is 'suffering' then that is all you will feel. look for what is better in yourself and see only that.

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Re: How does faith work
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2009, 09:09:08 PM »
faith is like the fuel that makes a car run. my faith in God is the one thing that keeps me going whenever everything seems to go wrong. if you don't have faith in the one who created you, what keeps you running then??

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Re: How does faith work
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Re: How does faith work
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2009, 03:15:26 AM »
I don't believe in god, nor would I subject myself to any "-ism"s,
which, though,  I gradually find impossible. How can a human live
without belief? Or rather, without faith? I have tried to see the
world in a neutral way, without any bias, to make decisions entirely
based on reality, excluding any existing conclusions. And now I find
if I want to do it right, I must possess knowledge of the whole
universe, covering even a single stone. Is it applicable? Well, so I
think faith, in its true nature, is a complement for logic. Whenever
you come across a question that cannot be answered by using your
current brain power, you resort to faith. But, I am still waiting, to
find a way through which I can achieve true freedom in mind.

If I do not acknowledge the existence of God in my life and in this universe, why would I still need to question the purpose of anything else? I would just accept anything that comes my way and do the best I can to survive. I would have nobody else to blame or to turn to but myself, so the center of my universe would be myself.  I would only have faith in myself and in what I can do. Would humankind matter to me if I have no God? Would I still hope for anything if I have no faith? Can I feel love if I have no faith? 

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Re: How does faith work
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2009, 10:18:04 AM »
faith is not a prerequisite for love, nor does a non-belief in a god reduce one to merely "surviving" their existence. nor is it wrong if the center of your universe is you. if you  do not have a sense of self, of self-perspective, then nothing in the universe could ever have much meaning for you.
if all you see is 'suffering' then that is all you will feel. look for what is better in yourself and see only that.

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Re: How does faith work
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2009, 03:55:59 AM »
Every time you open a tap for water, you believed that water would come out before you opened that tap - that is what faith is, you had an experience therefore you believed. Have an experience with the Lord Jesus and you will always believe.

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Re: How does faith work
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2009, 06:59:33 AM »
How can a human live
without belief? Or rather, without faith? I have tried to see the
world in a neutral way, without any bias, to make decisions entirely
based on reality, excluding any existing conclusions...
Faith is a verb. The way it works is the "Faith-er" acts on his or her belief that something is true or untrue. Your perspective of reality will not be the same as mine or anyone else; even if we agree to compromise, your version of what is real will always tend to support the circumstances that exist in your own life.
Your act of faith will always be based on what you believe to be true AND untrue.

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Re: How does faith work
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2009, 05:28:16 AM »
I don't believe in god, nor would I subject myself to any "-ism"s,
which, though,  I gradually find impossible. How can a human live
without belief? Or rather, without faith? I have tried to see the
world in a neutral way, without any bias, to make decisions entirely
based on reality, excluding any existing conclusions. And now I find
if I want to do it right, I must possess knowledge of the whole
universe, covering even a single stone. Is it applicable? Well, so I
think faith, in its true nature, is a complement for logic. Whenever
you come across a question that cannot be answered by using your
current brain power, you resort to faith. But, I am still waiting, to
find a way through which I can achieve true freedom in mind.

The one thing that you are comparing is earthly beliefs to spiritual beliefs. I believe that you cant have one with out the other . Yes there are alot of people that resort to faith when things can not be answered . But in order to do that you have to believe is something


 

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