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bethoven

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purgatory
« on: July 28, 2009, 08:10:09 AM »
Some has beliefs about this purgatory. Do you think it is true? Does God created such place? I can't really hardly understand with this term. Anybody can explain?

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Re: purgatory
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2009, 04:46:04 PM »
According to my readings, purgatory is basically the process where your soul is being purified in order to get ready for Heaven. I do not believe such place or process exists, as I believe that God's love is unconditional and having souls go through such thing would be, in itself, a condition set by God. This concept seems all wrong to me. I believe that Heaven is right here and right now, it is not somewhere that will exist once we transition. Thus, I am convinced that purgatory is concept that religion has once again come up with to force people into following their rules and scaring them into doing good, according to its beliefs.

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Re: purgatory
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2012, 06:43:10 PM »
Purgatory, Heaven, Hell, it's all part of the Roman story created by the Vatican and the Roman Catholic Church. The purpose of all religions is to divide and conquer, to keep people arguing and debating over trivial matters while only a handful of men control the International Bankers, the Federal Reserve, the Vatican, governments, presidents, and standing armies.
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Re: purgatory
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2012, 08:14:05 PM »
Purgatory, Heaven, Hell, it's all part of the Roman story created by the Vatican and the Roman Catholic Church. The purpose of all religions is to divide and conquer, to keep people arguing and debating over trivial matters while only a handful of men control the International Bankers, the Federal Reserve, the Vatican, governments, presidents, and standing armies.

This may be accurate and true if you forget the fact that Jesus started Catholicism and that we have evidence of people living in the B.C. (meaning before Christ).  They all had a religion and Heaven and Hell were something that was thought of before Catholicism existed.

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Re: purgatory
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2012, 01:17:26 PM »
When we die, we enter extreme darkness. It is a realm void of physical beings. Our soul may stay here and linger with no direct purpose, other than to stay connected to the selfish existence we lived. If we are less attached to our ego, we may enter a realm of less vibration. These realms have distinct differences from the darkness, and have some stability.

The spiritual realm has transitions from materiality toward awareness. There are three global "bands" that completely surround the Earth. They are each divided into three separate "rings"...totalling nine. Our material life determines the vibration in our soul, as it is in the material plane that we may attach to the ego and increase vibration, or deny it and lower the vibration of our soul. The vibration is the mechanism that decides our place in these realms.

The first two "bands" are Hell. The third "band" is Heaven. Plus, there is a realm beyond Heaven, and a realm we encounter prior to Hell. We have many witnesses on Earth who have seen these "bands". They either have intuitive memories or have had near death experiences. I prefer to research the near death experiences and read books from intuitive people, rather than to listen to people talk. I want more of a commitment from my sources.

The first stage...the lowest realm...is directly above and penetrates below the Earth's crust. The density here is extremely high and compressed, and has been described as a heavy fluid. Souls that cannot go beyond this realm have a very high vibration, and are the undesirable. This soul is totally attached to the basic needs of material life and may not know it has no physical body. This is the realm we are staged in as we get accustomed to our change in existence.

The smallest degree of awareness allows a soul to seek a faint path of light that can take them beyond this "painful" experience. This "awareness" can be realized with a lowering of vibration in the past lifetime. I don't think it takes much for most people to find the light, but it does take some form of commitment. Leaving this realm takes the soul to the "bands".

The different stages of Heaven and Hell are available by way of this path of light. We "graduate" from one realm and move to the next if we are able to lower our vibration in our physical life. Reincarnation is a gift demonstrating Free Will, and is the foundation for the meaning of life.

Of the first band, there are three "rings". The first ring is just above the Earth. The soul resides here in a life similar to the material life it had on Earth. This realm is furnished with the same physical objects that are familiar. There is a landscape that matches Earth. This is where souls reside if their vibration is too high to embrace spirituality. They live as they did on Earth because they have no means to change the vibration, and they have no awareness.

The second ring is less dense and more withdrawn from the material plane. Souls may improve their surroundings as they experience a taste of spirituality. They feel less of an attachment to the life they lived. Their realm is more desirable than the prior ring, and is preparation for a spiritual experience. There is beauty in the surroundings. This soul has lived life in the material plane with no direction, and is very selfish.

The third ring is similar to the second, but there is more beauty in the surroundings, and a less physical existence is realized. This soul is still focused on the material world and has a sense of right and wrong based on personal gains. Excuses are still a dominant theme for these souls in the material life. This ring is the final stage before a soul can follow the path of light to the second "band". The vibration determines where the soul resides in the first "band", as far as which of the three rings, and we must be reincarnated to lower that vibration.

Cayce noticed that as he traveled through these rings there were souls struggling to reach the path of light, but could not. He went through all stages of the spiritual realm as he made it to the Akashic Record, which is the "book of life" all souls write and is etched into the basic fabric of the universe...on an atomic level. Not until he reached Heaven, the third band, did he notice souls were not continually suffering to get to the light.
 
Once a soul has become aware of the need to lower vibration, and has traveled down the light, it now has come to the second band. Their awareness is not a conscious thought, but they may have developed "common sense", which is a primary requirement to reduce vibration. A prolonged stay in the first band may have triggered a sense that life is a lesson.

The fourth ring is the beginning of the new band. Souls are no longer attached to the physical existence, and they can no longer see Earth. They are still self absorbed and have limited ability to change their surroundings. They may build upon the landscape established by prior souls, or they may learn to alter it somewhat. This soul has started to understand the difference between right and wrong, but does not believe in things they cannot see.

The fifth ring is inhabited by selfish and false religious pretenders. They are manipulators who see themselves as heavenly spirits. Souls who share similar beliefs group together and play their "games". They are self-righteous and egoic, but are aware of the commitment toward spirituality. Souls remain here for many lives until they lower vibration, which is difficult with ego attached. Their sense of right and wrong is real but they may think they can control the bottom line through deceit.

The sixth ring is inhabited by souls who are materialistic intellectuals. They understand the concept of spirituality and implement it so they enjoy and profit. They may be more committed, but serve no true purpose as they are still self-serving. This is where souls remain for a very long time since they cannot understand a cause worthy of sacrifice. They make an effort to be honest, but the bottom line affects their choices. They live through ideals but when it becomes difficult, they utilize delusions to simplify their decision making.

As egoic souls live in the material plane, they are fear-based and grasp illusions that support the ego. This is where high vibration originates. The vast majority of people currently embrace the ego and cultivate it. They pretend to be something they are not, and commit to that goal...to fool others, but they only fool themselves.

A spiritual existence that is established on Earth may be able to oppose the ego and lower the vibration of the soul. With the Act Of Giving (help from enlightened souls) this stable low vibration is achieved in a relatively short time frame. With no help, only a life of extended suffering can effectively oppose the ego.

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